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ITALIAN FESTIVAL

Posted By CAROL MULLIGAN THE SUDBURY STAR

Posted 1 month ago

The manager of the Caruso Club, Johnny Cimino, is red-faced about a promotion offered during the Italian Festival at the club last weekend.

Organizers added a marketplace of exhibitors to the popular summer event for the first time. Based on the experience, they're vowing to more carefully review who rents a table at the festival in coming years.

Cimino contacted The Sudbury Star to inform festivalgoers that the "contest" offered at the booth run by We Tour America was not affiliated with the Caruso Club in any way.

Cimino wanted that message delivered after people who attended the festival began complaining about receiving phone calls from We Tour America this week.

The company invited people who stopped at their table to fill out their name, phone number and address on a "ballot" to register "for a fantastic vacation or cruise."

Cimino said people believed they were entering a draw to win a free trip, but the ballot festival goers signed stated they would be contacted and "given the opportunity to purchase vacation packages in Florida and the Bahamas."

When they were contacted by the company this week, festival goers were told about a "discount vacation" they could purchase that cost $598 for four people and were asked to put about half of that on their credit card.

Mansour Fadel, the man in charge of the promotion, insisted his company does not tell people when it phones them that they have won a vacation, but offers them the chance to buy the discount vacation.

He told The Star that the ballots people signed at the festival explained all the details of the promotion -- if people read all of the fine print.

"We don't say you won. All our phone calls are taped. And I can prove that any time," said Fadel in a telephone interview from his office located at the intersection of Dufferin Street and Finch Avenue in Toronto.

He also said: "I was doing a draw for somebody to win a vacation and there is somebody who won a vacation, that's right."

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When people were contacted by his company, they were offered the opportunity to buy the discount vacation for four that includes the following: three days, two nights' accommodation in Fort Lauderdale; two days' tickets at Universal theme park; car rental for seven days; two nights' round-trip and cruise, food included; four days, three nights in Orlando; four days, three nights in Cancun, Mexico; and three days, two nights in Las Vegas.

"All this for $598 for four people," said Fadel. Of course, people who purchase the vacation have to find their own way there, pay for their meals and be subject to the availability of hotel rooms.

They must also sit-through a 90-minute "tour" of a timeshare project in Florida.

"Sometimes you make good things ... and people are just insulting you," Fadel told The Star. "I don't know why."

Fadel said the promotion company he runs is "a very boring company" and operates above board and he grew annoyed when questioned about the trips he promotes.

"Canadians don't like good things. My mom is like this. I cannot stop her," said Fadel, who said he is European.

He also said he does not understand why people would get upset about being asked for their credit card numbers because that is one of the most secure ways to pay for anything.

RCMP Staff Sgt. Paul Proulx, manager of the Canadian Anti- Fraud Centre known as Phone- Busters, said giving an unknown company your credit card number over the phone is always risky.

His organization has received five complaints about We Tour America since December.

"If there are complaints, that's not a good sign," said Proulx.

Filling out ballots such as the ones people signed at the Caruso Club last weekend is "the worst thing that you can do," said Proulx, because it gives companies personal information about you.

As police always do, the RCMP sergeant advised if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

"You have to guard your personal details. You have to do your research. People are real happy to hear they've won something and not very careful to (protect) their personal information such as credit card numbers."

While it has only received five complaints about We Tour America, Proulx said that could represent about five per cent of people unhappy with their experience with the company.

Many people don't bother reporting experiences such as these, thinking instead that they will live and learn from it.

Fadel insists that he is offering a great vacation deal -- if people would not be so suspicious about it.

He said he sold 221 vacation packages to families based on the almost 1,000 ballots filled out at the Caruso Club last week.

Proulx said he doubts that many trips were purchased.

Cimino, in the meantime, said at least one person who was not happy with receiving a sales call after filling out a ballot at the Caruso Club, has vowed not to hold any business meetings there in future.

Said Cimino: "We would never do anything like that. We wouldn't try to manipulate anybody ... we've never been dishonest to anybody. We pride ourselves on our honesty.

"Most people will understand."

cmulligan@thesudburystar.com

Article ID# 2672108




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I did this at an event in T.O. one time put in names of friends as a joke and they got calls for years afterward. I felt bad I didn't think it would be this bad.

Post #1 By barometer, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

My sister was contacted by these people and they were pretty heavy handed in their phone call. Very pushy and trying to get her credit card info. She had the better sense to say no to these scam artists. I hope the 221 people who bought into this have the common sense to back out. This is not a good deal for any consumer.

Post #2 By jimmy_ricard, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

i had heard about this the day or two before on the news - it had happened at another festival - therefore I did not fill out anything..

Post #3 By totallyfedup, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

OMG. People selling time shares IS NOT NEWS!!! Come on Sudbury Star, how about a little journalism?

Post #4 By huh?, 1 month ago | -1 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

Right you are, huh?

Post #5 By lanny, 1 month ago | -2 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

Interesting. At the take-out area of the Caruso Club, there's a ballot box for a draw being done by an insurance broker. In small print it says that the information that you fill out on the ballot will be used to contact you about promotions, etc.

How 'bout you practice what you preach, Caruso Club?

Post #6 By bulshoy, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

It's too bad this happened. A similar story from Timmins was on the news about a week ago.

Post #7 By Proud Francophone 2, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

Something like this can really ruin a festival... we're supposed to bring people together, bring them out to experience and when we do, they get burned like this and this may affect attendance next year. These marketer and promoter's are two-faced, ssam artists trying to make a quick buck. No different than the slide of hand scammers at carnivals years ago. All smiles and compliments while they are taking your money without you knowing till it's too late.

Post #8 By primo, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

Think the people on the phone are pushy, should try sitting through those "90 minute" presentations. We did one, which apparently 90 minutes = 3 hours and holly they are pushy. They don't know how to take my answer of "No, I will not spend $12k on this offer that is only available today."
Long story short, I will never do one of these trips again, even when offered free.

Post #9 By Northern Mike, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

It happens primo, everywhere...get out, travel to a few of these festivals and you'll see what I mean.

Post #10 By lanny, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

I know it happens Lanny. This city has enough challenges trying to promote and get people out to festivals... things like this just make it worse and will affect attedance next year. I don't blame Caruso for making the statement... I'm pretty sure they're not getting any money from these scammers but the organizers are the one's that will be left with a bad name.

Post #11 By primo, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

My girls and I (4ppl)went on this Trip .. the company name was Wetour ... we had an amazing time.... i think we paid $199 each for this trip ... we did the 90 min timeshare...it was not that bad before we knew it... it was over... they offered us food and drink's ... also with that $199 the food on the cruse and car rental was included and ... the best part was the Pool and the hotel... Oh and the Beach.... i can not say anything bad about this trip....

Post #12 By Staceyman, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

Rule #1: Nobody gives anything for free.

Post #13 By barometer, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

the Caruso and Timmins Ribfest will learn from this and move on-----------------------​----------------sh​ouldn't let one questionable vendor cast a shadow over such wonderful events-------------------​------------Cimino, his staff and the volunteers at The Caruso deserve a huge thumbs up for their effort !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post #14 By bonerack, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

The same thing happened at the Manitoulin Trade Fair booth. Keep getting calls from four months ago. Jerks.

Post #15 By bugaboo2, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

bugaboo2 tell 'em to put ya on their NO CALL LIST -------------------------​---here's a site that'll give you ammo to throw back at them--------- http://www.ipc.on.ca/imag​es/Resources/donot​call_845611267500.pdf -----------read it and then read them the riot act mentioning the fines----------------shou​ld nip this in the bud lickety split !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post #16 By bonerack, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

bonerack.... the DO NOT CALL LIST has no teeth. So far about $7,500 in fines have been issued and only $500 has been collected.
I got my name put on the DNC list and all of a sudden received an influx of phone calls on my home phone and my very private cell number. CRTC were giving these lists to telemarketers to be entered on their system; instead telemarketers sold these phone numbers to others. I always tell a telemarketer that this conversation is being taped and I am filing a complaint with CRTC.

Post #17 By Oh!Really!, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

Hey man, the Caruso clud club should be held responsible for peoples poor judgement. Cimino, & all the folks involved with the Caruso are exactly what they appear to be... GOOD FOLKS, theey shouldn't have to feel the need to apologize, but they do & they are because these good folks are their for the Italian community & Subdury as a whole.
cancelling functions or boycotting them over a mishap with a vendour, just shows poor coping skills and you are probably better off in the long run. there is no excuse for poor judgement with all the warnings and information out there.
but above everything else... why would anyone feel pressure over a ohne from anyone trying to sell them anything?
hang up! that's it no pressure, it's done.
it is too bad that the fine folks who feel they have been wronged some how are pointing fingers at the club when they should be pointing at themselves.
The Carusao is #1 in my books!!!
PEACE

Post #18 By sandman747, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down
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